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This Post contains personal opinions that I hope you respect and discuss in a reasoned way and without using incorrect language.

The "Jailbraik project »Emerged shortly after the iPhone and iPod Touch were released. The objective? use user-created applications and get the most out of these two terminals. It also made it possible to overcome the great injustice that Apple, even today, continues to commit, charging iPod Touch users for updates.

The first jailbreak it was done through a website and you had the iPhone jailbroken in a matter of 2 minutes. The great Installer was installed, a great free App Store full of great applications. This jailbreak hardly affected the performance of the iPhone. It was perfect.

Over time, Apple improved its security and Jailbreak programs such as the one for ziphone, a project that improved a lot but at first it was almost unbearable to have to put the Firmware through SSH since the time was too much. Later this program improved a lot and, despite being much slower than the first Jailbreak, it became a very good alternative when exploring TTF (1st Version of the Jailbreak).

Then Apple started thinking with his head and brought out the INCREDIBLE App Store, a store that today serves as a reference for other companies. A simple, intuitive SDK ... Although those of Cupertino reconsidered, we must not forget that Apple is a company, so everyone could develop for Apple by paying $ 99 and following the rules to the letter. You can charge the applications or give them free, the fact is that Apple keeps 30% and the developer the rest; If the application is free, Apple does not keep anything, but you DO have to pay for the SDK.

The App Store and the App's are not perfect, since you cannot take full advantage of the iPhone terminal, however it is improving every time. But of course, what to do if you don't have money to make App's for the App Store or you want to make free App's but you have to pay for the SDK? Well, in that sense it is consistent that the Jailbreak Project continues to exist.

Along with OS X iPhone 2.0 came a new way to jailbreak: PWD, developed by the Dev Team and that brings by default the Installer (which lagged compared to Cydia when trying to transition from 1.0 to 2.0 and took a long time to get out of Beta) and the newly created Cydia. It was great, the new way to Jailbreak was quite fast (not as fast as the 1st Jailbreak), safe and also the Custom Firmwares (which have never worked correctly for me).

Finally, an application had been created to download and buy official Apple applications and another with other types of applications (ALWAYS FREE) and that allowed to continue updating the iPod Touch without paying, something totally cool and a very good way to do justice. I sincerely believe that Apple can consider quitting, after all, they listened to us when we said we wanted App's, right?

Games, App's from the App Store, and improvements for the iPhone from Cydia. Cydia allows us to have a video camera, shortcuts (SBTools), Bluetooth for sharing, Finder, Terminal, downloads from Safari ... That is, allows us to complete our mobile terminal. However it arose Cydia Store, an insult to the original Jailbreak Project. I only find one possible justification for this aberrant Store and that is that Apple does not let you hang your own App, because it breaches the contract and you want to share with the world earning some money. But most of the Cydia Store App are so that Apple does not take 30% and you do not have to pay $ 99 and you take all the money. The worst thing about paying for a Cydia App is that if you decide to update your iPhone you run the risk of losing that money you have earned, and you have to recognize it, the iPhone without Jailbreak works better than with it and many of us will consider leaving the Jailbreak when OS X arrives iPhone 3.0 though surely you can do the jailbreak.

3G Videorecorder, SwirlyMMS, iBluetooth…. and so many others take advantage of the fact that they will never be accepted in the App Store to go to the Cydia Store and that we can all enjoy them. But what happens now that we will have MMS and video on the iPhone 3Gs? Well, money has been paid for something that is no longer useful and has been abandoned. Make no mistake, Jailbreak gives us a lot but the day iDa entered the Cydia Store for $ 109 to me, personally as a computer science student, I was deeply offended. In the App Store they would accept this GPS Software, but of course, it is cheaper to keep $ 109 and not $ 76 and have paid $ 99. This is selfish, mean and very against Project Jailbreak. An application so expensive and that can disappear if the Jailbreak is no longer feasible. That is why it seems fair to publish a post explaining how this App is hacked.

Do not fall for the usual, if one day I become a developer, I would like to be paid for my work, but I will do like everyone else in the App Store, if I want to be paid, let Apple do it with its App Store and I would never do it for the Cydia Store, and if I think my application should be free and I don't want to pay for the SDK then I will publish it in Cydia, iCy and Installer.

What I mean by this whole post is that the great Jailbreak Project created to give us what we want when buying an Apple product has become a business that competes with the company's own App Store that created the support to do them. (iPhone, iPod Touch). If this does not change it will be much worse.


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  1.   maeggor said

    The truth is that I am delighted with this iPhone and I want to start making applications and you are absolutely right in the world. If I want to earn money I will use the AppStore but if the first ones that I do for free, it will bother me to pay the $ 99 for the license.

    But the problem I see is that I am a Windowsero and there is no easy way to install the SDK in Win !!!

  2.   Mundi said

    Well, if you want to make one for free, don't think about it, use Cydia. I see that you understand me and I'm glad

  3.   Christopher Barron said

    Hello. I am a current iPhone fan, I always enter from my job and my house.
    I have a question. I just bought an iphone 3g with firmware 2.0 (yes, they brought it to me just the same day that the iphone 3gs came out, which I hope will arrive soon in Peru so I can buy it)
    The issue is, do I want to release it, and install cydia, etc etc.
    When I turned it on, it was free, any telephone operator ran on the cell phone.
    Now I want to update it to firmware 2.2.1, but the quickpwn that I download are only compatible with 2.0.1 onwards.
    that I can do?
    I read out there that I could delete all the quickpw that I have on the pc and start with a quickpwn for 2.0
    Thanks, any help is welcome.
    By the way, the page is the best. It helped me a lot with my 2g iphone, now that I have the 3g I want to keep updating myself.
    Christopher Barron
    Creative editor
    Publicis LIma - Peru

  4.   Nacho said

    But it seems to me good that they charge in the Cydya Store if the software allows to take advantage of the phone certain features that Apple does not leave in its AppStore, right? I say. I've never been able to jailbreak mine anyway.

  5.   winfis said

    I also think that if someone wants to charge, that's what the App Store is for, not Cydia, Icy or Installer. I do not see it bad either, it is normal that you want to receive something in exchange for your work.

    Like Maeggor, I would also like to develop an application, but I am also a Windows user. Is there any way that we can make applications in Windows? I guess not.

  6.   zukig said

    That is another, if you want the SDK you have to install it on a Leopard…. Yes, I know that there are versions for PC but it happens as with everything, and the day they update what? Do you stop until they release the corresponding hacked version? ...

    I also know that it is due to library problems and such, but a version for win is feasible…. But if you force a Mac to pay for a license for the SDK and 30% of what the guy earns, then if they make money. Also, if you want to test the apps you make, you must have a special firmware so forget about many "little things" and to top it all I'm not sure if they let you go back to the user signature just like that.

  7.   maeggor said

    That did not know zukig! So if you are a developer better to have a separate iPhone to test the APPs you make?

    Why, if that's the case, I'm going to the USA shortly and I had thought of catching a
    3GS (later canceling the contract with ATT) and use the 2G that I have now to develop!

  8.   roberto said

    surely the iDa has something that does not allow it to come out x appstore

    Although x cydia DO NOT lose 30% or pay 99 initials, I play whatever it is, that an app in appstore is sold soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    all the more, that 30% shouldn't be noticed.

  9.   roberto said

    and I forgot

    x cydia apps were sold looooong before cydia store.

    the latter, it just makes it easier

  10.   Aitor said

    Hello everyone. I have to say that as soon as I read this post I felt for a moment that I had written it myself. And also add that we are not only talking about iDa but about something that I have seen in recent days, and that is that they begin to charge us for themes for our iPhone. I don't know how far all of this will go but I completely agree with this great post.

    Thank you. regards

  11.   ChoPraTs said

    I have an iPhone 3G since last summer. So far I have endured without jailbreaking, more out of "fear" than anything else, since the desire to "improve" the iPhone was not lacking.

    I thought that once firmware 3.0 came out, I would have what I needed most, and I would never need to Jailbreak.

    Well, after seeing that video recording will only be implemented in the new model, that voice recording will not be available for 3G and that for Thetering they will most likely make us pay more, I am seriously considering Jailbreak for the first time, because I feel like Apple is teasing me.

    In my opinion, the Jailbreak will serve me, in addition to everything you have pointed out, as a "protest" mode. It will be my way of claiming that I do not like being made to go to the cashier and buy a new phone (which is not clear that Movistar allows to renew like this without more) to get things that could well be added by software, and the best way to do it it is jailbreaking, something that Apple expressly prohibits.

  12.   trichomax said

    I think there is no debate… ..well for those who crack for those who cannot …… each one who charges what he wants… .everyone who cracks what he wants… ..and I don't know what it has to do with the jailbreak. I believe that the jailbreak is above that ... it opens up worlds for you outside the appel criteria ... ... that there are those who want to get a slice of it ...... well, if it is legally punishable for appel and its lawyers to do their job ... and if not ... well, we will crack and facilitate the process for everyone ... and the market will regulate itself ... ... but if there is no jailbreak ... ... I change my phone quickly. I think the future has to be android ..but it has to mature… ..but it will do so quickly because many companies are interested in betting on it …… .and its community of developers grows every day… ..Appel enjoys an advantage that has allowed it to impose its law on developers, operators …… but we will see how long that dominant position lasts. I find it insulting that the iphone 2g records video with jailbreak and not with the sof official ware, and it makes me think, if not I will be asking for appel almost everything that android can already give me.

  13.   Actuary said

    Unfortunately this type of thing made me sell the equipment and wait, a situation that will continue as the 3GS has disappointed me a lot, it is more of the same.

    At least for me it would be worth paying for a device and maintaining a permanence of 1 year at least if I had a 5mp camera, a screen with better definition and the basics of a mobile, radio for example. What the hell do I want a compass for ???? Please WHAT CAN I USE A COMPASS FOR ????? a radio would make a difference.

    How could it be that they use a "differential" factor, the great novelty that audio can be recorded ???? that I can do cut & paste, they are basic things !!!

    Anyway, as soon as I can, I will buy the only thing that convinces me today, a Plam Pre, the leader in smart phones !! that returns to the sand !!

  14.   Mundi said

    ChoPraTs I totally agree with you, yes, I think that thetering if movistar fucks us after 2 days with JB we will have it and the video, well, I have video on my iPhone 3g, not with as much quality as with the S model But more or less it works, I don't think it takes a long time to modify the camera app so that it works on all iPhones.
    The only thing that calls me about the S model is the hardware improvement (speed) but to decide whether to buy it I will see what the hell does Movistar do with the ones we already have iPhone and then the complete characteristics of the improvements (Ram, processor, clock speed …)

  15.   homer2 said

    You can not be more right or explain it better !!!!!!
    Congratulations on the post.
    greetings to everyone

  16.   Jesus said

    COMPLETELY ACCORDING TO THE POST!
    Just tell ChoPraTs that the video and those things come with the new firmware, to which we can all update and with which the new iphone will come. We will only have some limitations (compass and others….).

    By the way, thanks for the hacking post on the go. As you say, it seems to me to have a lot of face, although I doubt that the appstore will accept it with the imminent departure of tomtom….

  17.   ChoPraTs said

    No, no, Jesus, video recording or voice control will not work (in principle) with the iPhone 3G, even if we have firmware 3.0. These functionalities will only be activated in the new phone since, according to Apple, it always takes "more power", as Mr. Tools would say.

    That is precisely why I feel that I am being teased I would prefer that they allow me to use all the functionalities that the software carries with it, and warn me that some may not be very fluent due to having an old terminal, unless they prohibit me from even trying them.

    Again the hope will be the jailbreak.

  18.   Pedro Pablo said

    It's obvious to me…! I can't pay for an application that the iPhone doesn't accept by default; You can't be sure that a future Apple will do some kind of update to "baseband", "bootloader" or whatever the hell it's called and its only function is to disable the use of this or that paid application that you installed when jailbreaking the terminal. The day that both options are different, instead of being a kind of alternative, they are complementary and one does not exclude the other

  19.   Pablo said

    In total disagreement with this post, let's see ...

    First: If you don't like something, don't buy it because nobody is putting guns to your head forcing you to buy.
    Second: Document yourself better because payment applications in cydia have been around for much longer than the Cydia Store
    Third: iDa violates several clauses of the developer contract that must be accepted for the hell with apple, for example the one that expressly prohibits navigation applications with turn by turn instructions (that is, it would not be accepted at the moment)
    Fourth: The jailbreak is not a project to achieve a total free but to be able to have all the power of the phone without having to submit to ridiculous limitations imposed by Apple arbitrarily to camouflage deficiencies or to make room for get improvements out of the hat with little effort.
    Fifth: Anything that allows you to bypass Apple's capricious and catastrophic application approval process is in itself a stronger reason for existence than the ridiculous $ 99 it costs to enroll in the program.
    Sixth: You are not a developer yet and that is why you still do not understand the enormous work involved in developing any application, and much more something of the complexity of a browser, so that later they will demand that you give it away. I am a developer and I hope that if I decide to charge for an application I will not be criticized since that is how ... although I am not going to stop releasing free applications from time to time to give back to the community part of what it gives me. gives.

    Both schemes are compatible and what we should praise is that at least thanks to the jailbreak we can choose if we develop what we have thought or not, or if we buy what we can offer or not ... without the jailbreak here the only one that decides our possibilities it is Apple and following normally ridiculous criteria.

  20.   Mundi said

    with this sentence "This Post contains personal opinions that I hope you respect and discuss in a reasoned way and without using incorrect language."

    I was referring to exactly this: »First: If you don't like something, don't buy it, because nobody is putting guns to your head forcing you to buy.»

    normally I do not enter into discussion and less with your arguments that there is no where to catch them, but I will. If I am a developer and I have had the misfortune to work for people who think like you. And if you eat to develop do it legally, because if I were Apple or any user I would be very pissed off with charging for an application that if it stops working because the jailbreak ends or because you want to update (something very normal to improve a product). The minimum they can do is return the amount or a large part of it, but they do that, No, it is better to earn money at the expense of others and more if it is 109.
    And when I refer to cydia store, I know that there were applications before but I have tried to generalize because most people began to see paid applications when the creators decided to make that aberration.

  21.   Steal it said

    In particular, I am glad that the new 3GS does not suppose notable improvements with respect to 3G (or at least almost nothing new that the jailbreak cannot solve), and that because the opposite would be very tempting for those of us who still have 1 year of commitment. with telephone. I think that by this time, in 2010, Apple will make a splash and will release a phone that really takes off from its predecessor, above all, because I am afraid that this new phone will not cause the world uproar caused by 3G, ( apart from the fact that the number of pseudocompetitors will increase), and apple (who knows about that for a while) will know how to return the illusion to the masses, and quickly recover the ground that it could lose. concluding, I hope that the dev team has already prepared the quickpwn for OS 3.0, and wait for June 2010

  22.   yenis said

    And if we assume that the solution that you have posted to hack ida does not work?

  23.   Mundi said

    Well, it goes perfectly for me, and some friends who have also done it are doing great

  24.   Pablo said

    "I was referring to exactly this:" First: If you don't like something, don't buy it, because nobody is putting guns to your head forcing you to buy. "

    normally I do not enter into discussion and less with your arguments that there is no where to catch them, but I will. If I am a developer and I have had the misfortune to work for people who think like you. And if you eat to develop do it legally, because if I were Apple or any user I would be very pissed off with charging for an application that if it stops working because the jailbreak ends or because you want to update (something very normal to improve a product). The minimum they can do is return the amount or a large part of it, but they do that, No, it is better to earn money at the expense of others and more if it is 109.
    and when I refer to cydia store, I know that there were applications before but I have tried to generalize because most people started to see paid applications when the creators decided to make that aberration. "

    Let's see, sorry if I have sounded abrupt before but this is a sensitive fiber. Regarding to return the money for an application after the Apple roller passes over it, I again disagree. The Swirly developer for example is not going to return the money because now Apple has decided to support MMS on the iPhone, why? Well, because the application has already been providing an excellent service for all the time it has been at the sale and because someone who buys an application outside the official circuit has to assume that this can happen!, the developers are not to blame that Apple decides to run over them now by adding functionalities, they have worked excellently to put products on the street that have us given functions that we did not have before and it cannot be that now we ask them to pay for the duck of Apple's excessive secrecy regarding what improvements there will or will not be in one version or another of the operating system.

    The development world is full of a lot of suffering and millions of hours normally thrown away for miserable salaries that just come to you by the end of the month, if on top of that we are asking for the heads of those who have fewer resources, we are ready.

  25.   Alfie said

    It seems perfect to me, you should be grateful for the work of these people

  26.   loirione said

    First of all, many congratulations for a great page that has become my reference in this world of apple phones.
    It's been a long time since I first saw an iPhone (2g) and my first thought was 'I want one of those'. I have never owned anything from Apple and I did not find the iPods so great, but when I saw the iPhone it was something else. I was willing to have something from the apple sect, willing to have an expensive terminal (mobiles are given a lot of tute and I am always afraid of losing them or that they will fall to the ground), but there was something that I could not miss…. MOVISTAR…. I can't handle them, I have a lot of hobby for them (as well as telephoning) so I had a problem.
    Finally a friend sold me his and I am very happy that the jailbreak exists because that way my iPhone works with another company that is not movistar. For the rest I use the appstore a lot and only looked in cydia (or icy or installer) for something that I read on this page and I find it interesting.
    I have no interest in hacking applications, I just want what I use (free or paid) to do it correctly.

  27.   Javic said

    Pablo, I completely agree with you. This post appears to have been written by a fan with very little knowledge on the subject. I wish Mundi could tell me where he got the idea that it is illegal to sell applications through Cydia.

  28.   mikelotto said

    First: I wanted to say that I really liked this article mundi 🙂 I think that is what most of us think and "pass" on the subject.

    Second: Maeggor Is it so easy to cancel the contract with AT&T? Do you have any downside?

  29.   Jes said

    Pablo I also think like you.
    Mundi, I do not understand why people are bothered that someone who works an application wants to charge for it, be it in cicya, in the appstore or wherever ...
    I have read in the comments someone who said "Now they want to charge us for the themes", let's see, someone works out a theme and puts it up for sale for whatever he deems appropriate. And if you like it and you want to buy it, well, if you don't want to buy it, then you go well. What is the problem?

    For example, I have never bought any application in cydia, some in the appstore if it has fallen.

    Anyway, here the only one trying to force users to go through the hoop is apple, not cydia / installer / icy and other "jailbreak" supporters

  30.   thewarrior said

    Hello, everyone is free to comment and do what they want, and I have a 2g since it was bought in Panama with version 1.0 when I arrived in Spain the first thing I did was to jailbreak it with the typical method of the call, already from At that time I told myself that I would not pay a penny for an app, I already spent some money on the mobile now I would only have to enjoy it with the apps that the developers create, if they do not charge it is because they want them in cydia anyone can hang what they want Either free or paid, but bad luck for those who charge an asshole because there is always a hacker friend who hits the spot and does not put them for free. I will not pay while the jailbreak exists where we can have free payment applications on our device.

  31.   ajonaut said

    I totally agree with Mundi (in part) and I totally agree with Pablo (in part) ...
    By this I mean to say that seen from the outside, you are both right. Perhaps I would lean a bit more towards Mundi, let me explain: The Cydia store is trying to emulate the AppStore, and it is a justifiable project due to Apple's limitations and obstacles to developing any functionality that they consider.
    Anyway, I think there is a differential fact, which is the possibility of keeping the applications from the AppStore after updating the phone. It seems a bit unfair that before a new update of the iPhone OS, a dilemma presents itself for me: losing the applications purchased in the Cydia Store, or having to maintain software that has already been improved.
    In the times of Installer and Cydia (pre-Cydia Store) there were already paid applications, but they were cheap applications for what they represented us, and most only asked for a donation, which was not mandatory (I remember that beloved developer who said that this program was "a plate on my table and a roof on my head").
    At that time they had the romantic air of the fighters against the system, but with the Cydia Store, I see a replica of the AppStore, with a good aspect, which is to eliminate the obstacles of Apple, but with a bad aspect, which is the mercantile spirit (I find it crazy to present an application like Ida one month after the release of OS 3.0, which will make everyone who bought it lose their money or cannot update, and the € 109 hurts (I did not buy it, no You think wrong, heh, heh, heh)).
    I think that if Cydia Store wants to follow the paths of the AppStore, it should guarantee that whoever buys an application keeps it even after updating the firmware. I am not referring to the complicated tricks that currently exist, I mean in a simple way, since the great work that has been done with QuickPwn, has made what in principle was an expensive jailbreak, and only reserved for advanced clients, Now anyone can do it.
    If the Cydia Store wants to play at being an emulator of the AppStore, it seems perfect to me, it is in its right since it does not oblige anyone to buy, but at least it has to guarantee the rights of its consumers.
    If this is not the case, we can leave the embers to fall into the fire ...

  32.   Bill said

    How are some with certain themes. In this case, from a developer's point of view, I agree with Pablo. That many people do projects and waste hours and hours for the love of art does not mean that everything has to be this way and charging for applications in cydia that have offered excellent services that the iPhone did not have seems to me more than correct.

    And it is not the fault of the developers who want to take advantage of it, it is Apple that, due to poor planning, greed or incomprehensible decisions, made two versions of the iPhone without BASIC function. If Apple had put these four bullshit on the iphone I am sure that many people would not even have opted for the jailbreak.

    Now, I understand that it is frustrating to have spent money on something that is now going to be obsolete, but I will say two things. 1.- One could see that sooner or later Apple was going to add these functions. 2.- Surely the developers of these apps will offer improvements and functions that their respective native iPhone options do not have.

    On the other hand, it is true that some amounts charged are excessive, does everyone charge what they want? Unfortunately yes, that is the free market and that is why we have to mortgage our soul to buy a home today. (sorry for leaving the topic, but I had to say it)

  33.   maeggor said

    Well, I don't know if it will be easy or not to cancel the contract, so I will inform myself about it there, but for me (I have the 2G) I think the 3GS is worth it because of the speed, GPS, VoiceControl, etx….

  34.   pablusplus said

    Hello people! I am from Argentina; where it also suffers with Movistar: prices and limitations are similar, from what I read (although proportional). Where; Given the few economic resources that our politicians leave us (our fault, no? We let them continue there), many have developed an amazing capacity to make what they charge free and share it altruistically. Others defecate on others, and selfishly usurp, lie etc. Some are known as politicians and others make us look bad outside. Anyway, this is not new, that Mundi is right in what he says and Pablo is also right, something that they already commented. Sorry for the political banner ... I do NOT have an iphone, I have a Moto a1200 and I am disappointed with the current market: with this mobile I have multitasking but I do not have a large screen or performance. Less, 3G. This is normal for Nokia, LG, SonyEricsson (with Xperia all good, but the screen is tiny for the tremendous resolution it offers). The iPhone has arrived and offers multimedia capacity, screen and performance beyond the known…. but it fails as a phone. It does not offer multitasking, it is not possible to do anything during a call, etc. You already know all this and the only way out I can find is to start something that has already been started for the Axxx series Linux platform: investigate the hard (IC's of each module, specifications, etc.) and develop a "custom" and downloadable OS! I know it is a terrible effort, but I see on this page, talent and ability. They have developed separate forms of mockery, control schemes and others ... will it be possible to 'tune' some open OS (Linux, Android, Simbyan if I'm not mistaken) ??? rewriting the code to port it to a certain architecture is not impossible. Developing drivers to interface the different modules either. It is the best way to end hegemony. I mean, it is a crazy idea out there but I hope it is a seed and if someone has a broken iPhone, they could open it and go through the ids of the chips that they see. Long live everyone!