http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=actltIWxj6M
Thanks to our reader adrianeitor92 we can see the loss of coverage of the new iPhone in Spain, specifically with Vodafone.
Thanks for the input.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=actltIWxj6M
Thanks to our reader adrianeitor92 we can see the loss of coverage of the new iPhone in Spain, specifically with Vodafone.
Thanks for the input.
But it doesn't run out of service ... that's a good sign
I hope this does not happen with orange, one question, do they give you the bumper?
iLemOn the bumper is given away, you have several posts below how to do it 😉
With Orange the same thing can happen to you, the problem is supposed to be with the mobile phone, not with the company, although it will also vary depending on the coverage you have in one place or another.
Well, many do not have that problem, we hope that no more cases appear or that there are not many cases with this problem.
Well, nothing we don't already know, right?
Well, it seems regrettable to me, I say so, and look that I have been (like everyone) following the issue of the loss of coverage all these weeks, but it is amazing, it loses a lot of signal ...
I do not know, the truth is that now if I made the mobile back (for now), I will wait for new reviews because it is not acceptable that for such an expensive mobile this problem occurs SO obvious….
A greeting!
If you already look at part of a bad coverage umts, not 3g (if someone does not know, that dot next to the operator's name is the type of coverage, dot = UMTS then symbol E = Edge "something better" and therefore last 3G) and not full, so I suspect that it does not have a very good coverage, and even so it does not run out, by the way, I have tried the same with my iPhone 3G and with my girlfriend's 3GS and ... THE SAME and I've never had coverage problems when talking on the phone.
It is normal in my opinion.
What a way to manipulate! I mean, it doesn't even have 3G coverage and not even all the stripes. And of course, it loses a lot! Well, gentlemen, DO NOT BUY IT !! Those of us who want to buy it have no units available!
And for the unbelievers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEM1EuTLU38
There you have another proof of coverage. Let's see if we are serious!
David, I have done portability to vodafone in the online store, I was exhausted all day and around 19:XNUMX p.m. I had to look and they were available and after a while there were no more left, so, I think that at least vodafone, is loading stock .
You just have to notice that in the place where it does not have good coverage since it does not have 3G, whenever you are in a site that does not have good coverage, what the video shows will happen to you, now you should try a site with better coverage.
The best example is in David's comment which shows a video in conditions and where it is shown once again that people speak for the sake of talking and that they are usually people who wish they had one but cannot afford it and they only have to criticize it.
Wow!!! We are going to return to the same thing again, I have the 4 since it left London (that is, one of the first) and it goes perfect, and yes, if you catch it hugging it where there is little coverage, it loses some line, and what? The 3GS and my Nokia also do it, but what they don't do is have 1 more line of coverage inside my office, with the others I have to go out to the street to be able to speak decently (thing about armored glass, they have lead) but ,, ohhh with the 4 if I can talk, even if it is taking it carefully, but at least I talk, with the others nothing, to the street, so everything is said ...
If you are in an area with good coverage there is no problem.
If you are in a poor coverage area, you have to be a bit Mongolian to pick up the phone as you know it shouldn't be picked up.
Look at the web that makes it very clear:
http://www.apple.com/es/antenna/
I have the iphone4 and no complaints
write sedna by comex… .there are several sources that speak the same….
@ToniV
that point is not UMTS it is GPRS,
the E = EDGE
3G = UMTS / HSDPA
I bought it with vodafone in Seville at 12, and I have tried the coverage and it does not lose anything, as Jorge says the point is GPRS not UMTS ...
The phone is wonderful!
That there are still people who try to convince that a terminal of 800 EUR is a good buy although p
That there are still people who try to convince that a terminal of 800 EUR is a good purchase even if it loses 'some' of coverage, that an important design defect is recognized and it looks 'normal', I do not know what to say but for me that's a fat fanboy….
The antenna still occurs with the bumper on .. I tried an iPhone 4 from week 29 and it has the problem .. this situation bothers me, because the signal loss is too much .. I want the iPhone 4, but honestly I don't know if buy it for this problem ... 🙁
Honestly, what happens here is that the problems of "other" brands are insignificant for our eyes, but when it comes to the "GIANT" ... mm well God forbid that a hair comes out of the soup = D
Incredible male !! If now the iphone 4 is not going to be able to lose coverage anywhere !! That photo does not prove anything, only that it was in a place with little coverage.
When I bring my dick closer to my iPhone, it loses coverage and when I bring it closer to my girlfriend he hits me a ostia, between my girlfriend and the iPhone I prefer him to him.
It happens to me with movistar in a weak coverage area, I have to try it in another area, the fact is that it still doesn't work for me, I'm updating to 4.0.1 and see what happens ...
I hallucinate for those who hallucinate with these "surprises." Welcome to Spain, gentlemen, the 3G land of the Tempranillo bandit (ge ge ge, that is, heh heh heh), where in much of the country, outside the provincial capitals, you have to go out on the terrace with an umbrella to have a choppy "E" coverage hairline, regardless of the type of operator that has caught us.
Too bad I'm not a Canarian shepherd to whistle with my peers.
Gentlemen this video It is one of the first iPhone that was released and has been on YouTube since almost the day of its American launch, there are videos of people who have bought it a little later, after the supposed arrangement, and it does not lose any coverage.
I am not going to discredit the video because it seems real, but I am sure that if an almost total loss of coverage as it teaches us, happened with the three million iPhone 4s sold, there would be A LOT of people returning the mobile. Come on, no matter how much Apple fanboy it may be, if the phone loses all coverage it is no longer a phone. So with respect ahead, I am going to healthily doubt this video. Because in addition, there are similar videos in which almost no coverage is lost. PS: My iPhone 4 will arrive in a few days, I will tell you how it is
the bitch is that he loses it almost completely, if he only lost a hairline or two then it would not matter the truth ...
In the queue at the Telefónica store on Gran Vía, I tried the hostess's and the coverage flew as you covered the corner. But mine I see that I cover it and nothing. So it will be on some iPhones and in some situations I imagine.
It is a joke. And yes, other brands also lose when covering them BUT not in the simple way that the iPhone does. We did tests waiting yesterday and for him to lose a Nokia…. you almost have to jump on top of him ..
Too much hype is being given to the antenna issue, if it is true it exists, as there are cars that are defective from the factory and computers and TV….
I have an iPhone 4 Vodafone like the one in the video and it is perfect, it does not lose signal, this means that all are perfect and do not lose any signal, well, not all manufacturers know and have a percentage of products with some defect, but let's do this gives laughter.
Whoever does not want the iPhone who does not buy it, no one is obliged to buy something they do not want, and whoever has bought it and has that fault, well, Joe, return it, as far as I know, Apple picks it up, then what milks is the problem.
I REPEAT ALL MANUFACTURED PRODUCTS HAVE A MARGIN OF ERROR, ALSO THE NOKIAS, TOSHIBAS, SANSUMG, HTC….
But of course this is an iPhone and as things have more significance.
All the best
chondr… ..
Comclusion depends on the phone I am in the United States and the coverage when I cover it sometimes nothing happens other times it drops one or two bars and remember that the 4.0 software has problems calculating the signal but it does not matter much, it is worth the phone also, What a problem do I have that I have a normal hand, I do well and usually I never cover the groove that they think we all have hulk hands. So stop complaining and crying because the phone is worth it, as well as whatever you want, you will have to buy a bumper so that it does not get damaged and that removes the defect since with the bumper or rpotector you will not have to touch the slot and I encourage them to buy it and those with hulk hands feel sorry for them. heeeeeeeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeeeeeee
Haber, I think a little explanation is missing
That is the first video I made for him.
Indeed, the signal loss is a lot, but I start with a low signal, about 4 bars of GSM
I did tests in the street with all the bars of the 3G, that is to say, the signal at the top and it went down from 1 to 2 lines just by touching it, if I did it on purpose it went down from 2 to 3 lines
A greeting
By the way, I forgot to say that today if I can I will make a video of the loss of 3G coverage on the iPhone 4 where the iPhone 3G has all the stripes
A greeting
Responding to Manolo
I did this video yesterday at my house
I could make the same video with my iPhone 3G so do not insist on the loss of coverage. It's noooormaaaaaal… ..
I know it's not going here but maybe someone can help me ...
I have this problem:
After choosing the dolphin rate that I liked the most, entering all the personal data, entering the bank account and giving it to confirm, I got an error telling me that they regretted to inform me that they could not process my order because the data that I had already entered They had a previous order ... when it was the first time I put in the data ... This has happened to me twice ... and on the phone they do not deign to pick up the phone ...
Another thing that pissed me off is that I am not a customer or user, if I have hired more than one, how could I cancel the others? Or if I have not hired one, I call customer service and what information do I give or what do I say so that they can look at me because it gives me that message that I have already hired one if it was the first time?
I have to say that I am not an Orange user or anything, they did not ask me to do so to do the portability on the website, I have not received any confirmation or anything .. Does anyone else have it? does anyone have the solution?
I called customer service and they told me that they were saturated because they did not expect such reception from the phone and that they were going to fix it, but that everyone who does portability on the website has managed to do it ...
Some help?
Hahahahahaha, I laugh because it is almost creating more expectation about the loss of coverage than the phone itself, I am anxious to have it and I almost want to have it to cover the happy little corner to see if it loses coverage… .then I leave it parked in a drawer !! hahahaha: o)
adrianeitor92, please come out of the cave to make the videos.
Kuassar, exactly the same thing happened to me. At first I could go to the address that did not have a number and would not let me pass, at the moment I did it by putting my house number and when I was supposed to give me the summary of the order I got exactly the same as you, it is say, that he had already made an order with these data and could not make another. On the customer service phone exactly the same as you, they are saturated.
Luckily a friend of mine works in an Orange store and I told her that when she received them to call me, and at six in the afternoon when I opened the store she called me that they had entered three units, two of 16 and another of 32, so I made the portability request and I already have a 16gb one reserved for me there in the store. Come on, I was luckier than a bullfighter.
In Orange they did not expect what happened yesterday or in their best dreams. El Mundo says that at five in the afternoon they had sold 8000 iPhones, that's nothing.
Good luck with your portability.
All the best
Yesterday I released my iPhone 4, and the truth is that I am quite disappointed, I did not expect that the loss of coverage was so much, I have the 3gs and I put the 2 together and the 4 without touching it has 1 to 2 less coverage lines , and taking it sometimes loses up to 3 lines, I find it outrageous, with the 3gs it is perfect for me, even covering everything and taking it anyway, this afternoon I'm going to vodafone to return it. Although apple gives the bumpers at least mine without touching it also loses coverage. I am super outraged.
Vicente what firmware brings you? 4.0 ??? the ios4 came with a coverage calculation defect, that you see fewer or more bars does not mean that it is so, I think that in the update 4.0.1 they solve it, so if you do not have it installed, update with itunes to rule out that in reality is coverage failure.
WHAT I PROVED ACE A MOMENT AND I BUY IT WITH MOVIESTAR AND VERY HAPPY THE TRUTH. BUT IT'S TRUE, HE LOSES ALL COVERAGE MOTHER MIAAAAAAAA AK BAD ORA LO E PILLAO. NO AY COVERS IS SOLD OUT AND SO I CANNOT BE K AGO
I laugh at the incredulous and the almost 5 million unemployed who have a crisis ...
oh and apple
They prefer to pay € 800 to see if it is true if a phone loses coverage?
Adrianeitor92 First of all, "have" is a verb, man, don't use "have" when you really want to say "Let's see" to draw attention to something ... to many it will seem like bullshit and you will think that I am a dough and a face, I am not Language teacher and I'm probably the same age as many of you, but there are times when I can't keep quiet and I'm sorry Adrianeitor92 because it's not an attack on you, you're not to blame, I'm really telling you everything respect for the world.
Another thing, loss of coverage, to start in life I would take like this, not this one, but no mobile phone, if you look at it, your hand hugs the terminal so much that when you put it on your ear it would be separated from the headset, what I mean is that it does not It is a logical way to take a mobile of these characteristics. With a lot of bad temper and making watermarks once in an area of poor coverage, I was able to lower coverage to my 3GS. incidentally I plan to make profit
ToniV, it came from the factory with 4.0, and I updated to 4.01 and you have coverage failures, it is a shame I thought that this issue was already solved, I already tell you that it loses coverage even leaving it on a table without touching it, that is q the bumper is useless, in short ..., let's see what they tell me on vodafone, if they change it or what.
I just tested it on the street with all the coverage full on 3G and it loses from 1 to 3 stripes
Adrianeitor92 First of all, "have" is a verb, man, don't use "have" when you really want to say "Let's see" to draw attention to something ... to many it will seem like bullshit and you will think that I am a dough and a face, I am not Language teacher and I'm probably the same age as many of you, but there are times when I can't keep quiet and I'm sorry Adrianeitor92 because it's not an attack on you, you're not to blame, I'm really telling you everything respect for the world.
Another thing, loss of coverage, to start in life I would take like this, not this one, but no mobile phone, if you look at the hand, it hugs the terminal so much that when you put it on your ear it would be separated from the headset, what I mean is that it does not It is a logical way to take a mobile of these characteristics. With a lot of bad temper and making watermarks once in an area of poor coverage, I was able to lower coverage to my 3GS. By the way, I plan to make a profit at least until next year because it is only one year old and I do not want to spend a lot of money to terminate the contract or to continue in movistar, much less port to another company because I was already in vodafone and I did not I like it… and honestly I trust very very little in the quality of coverage and services of the others, it is a personal opinion, please do not take offense, since I am sure that there will be people who do very well with other companies.
Greetings and do not scratch too much about the spelling of truth that is not that I want to attack anyone, it is just that I wanted to comment on it.
Aaaaadios!
Adolfo_360vista I agree with you, but in reality not everyone has to be interested in writing well, it also hurts me to see these faults, but of course if we lived in another country perhaps it would not happen so much. But hey, it's another topic, for another type of forum.
Greetings.
Jose, regarding what it has little coverage, it is clear that you are right, but I come to refer that it also happens with other phones, in my opinion, there is a brutal suggestion because of the incredible expectation and the amount of rumors and eagerness to discredit the brand by the competition. That now we all see what they have wanted us to see.
They want to make all smartphones so fine, what happens, they lose, but all, not just iPhone 4. On Apple's page there are videos of different phones happening exactly the same thing. Blackberry, htc, and some more that I do not remember.
I just tested it in an area where the iPhone 3GS has all the 3G stripes and just picking it up with your left hand loses 4 stripes
On monday i will return it
The misspelling thing is because I'm writing from the iPhone and the iPhone has put it like this
Above that I worry about informing you, you complain
You are a little exaggerated, aren't you adrianeitor92?
Also I will use a battery case so I am indifferent.
Good adrianeitor, thanks for Currartelo and informing us, that there are many of us who are waiting for our iPhones for portability reasons and we want to know about that topic.
On the other hand, there is a news out there that says that iPhones manufactured after week 27 have an insulating wash that solves the problem, and tells you how to check which week is yours by looking at the serial number. Would you mind working on it a little more and checking it, to be able to confirm or deny the news in question?
I know it is abusing a little, especially in places like these where good vibes are not abundant, but surely more than one will thank you, man.
A greeting.
Fucking proofreaders ...
Where it says washed means lacquered
xDDD
They have already returned with the issue of coverage, if you don't like it, don't buy it, or if you bought it, return it and that's it, happy all of you =), what else if you want to buy it.
Fuck no?
You stand in line, you spend a paston, and now that's why you give it back?
I'm sorry to say this, but it's stupid ...
If you already knew that this happened, why would you buy it? to make you cooler or more important?
Whether you return it or not, they change it, etc, that will continue to happen and it is like that, since it is not a problem with the software, but with hardware, and the million iPhones that are already on the street will not be able to be repaired , and as Apple said, the solution is not to change it, it is to take a little bag, what I see is that immediately you let yourself eat the coconut, both by apple and by other companies that try to hurt, as Adolfo said, who the hell takes So the phone to talk? is that not even to put the hands free ...
To look for faults and problems of course that can be demonstrated, but then will it really affect you as others say?
I do not think so.
PS: before returning it, I will buy it for you for 80% of what it cost to you (it is used and with "coverage problems")
hahaha 😉
When I was with the iphone for a while, I noticed that on the right side of the screen there is a yellow stain, someone else happens to it? Are they the famous yellow stains from the drying of the glue ... ufff go ...
some say ... but he does not run out of coverage hahahaha for God's sake some cannot give an opinion that is impartial, always concerned about taking care of Apple's interests! this is a problem for psychology ahaha, I can't understand them !!! And look at the video, the place has good coverage, now if it is in a place with low insurance coverage, it loses it! This is nothing new, so whoever buys the iphone4 already knows with the gift that comes! ahhh I can't see the 58 comments, does it all happen to them?
Above that I work a video they call me false
But can you tell what is going through your head?
My iPhone is from week 29
adrianeitor92
Thank you very much for your work, it is appreciated. I think the problem is with your terminal and an isolated event. Coverage may be lost, but not so pronounced. Call apple and explain your case.
I think the lack of respect for comrade adrianeitor92 is totally out of place. They discredit the rest of the comments.
As for the "seats of the rae" is what predictive text has. No one is exempt from a misspelling or punctuation. I believe that this article does not mention spelling issues at any time. The best thing is that we focus on the subject of the article.
Thanks for your work adrianeitor92.
Thanks uncle, mine tb but I think I'm going to wait and try it, despite everything.
It is one thing for everyone to think what they should, and agree or not to return it.
From there to having to disrespect you….
Greetings and thanks again for the currada.
I have another iPhone 4 from vodafone and I already commented on that in another post, the same thing happens to me but it is not a matter of just pressing the union of the 2 antennas, they have to be making mass, bone, take off your shoes or touch the ground and the Bars all fall to me too in a matter of seconds, I love the phone and with the cover nothing happens at all. a greeting and there keda that. He would like to try and do a greeting ps. It is also from week 29, mine
What a shame to disrespect him for demonstrating something that you can all verify in the video ... even if it is an isolated case ...
I just tested the 2, that is, the iPhone 4 with 4.0.1 and the 3GS with 3.1.3 and the 3GS has 5 stripes and the 4 has 4 stripes without touching it
To which I hold it loosely with my left hand loses 1 or 2 lines
I have made 2 videos, one of the 3GS recorded with the iPhone 4 and one of the 4 recorded with the 3GS that I will upload when I get home
The test was done at home in Barcelona where always with the 3GS I have had 5 coverage stripes
When I get to my house next to BCN I will upload the 2 videos
enough to say isolated case !!! Do you think that Apple lost and is going to lose millions of US $ giving away cases and bumpers for an isolated case ???? This is not an isolated case but a defect does not affect all users in different proportions !!! come on !!!!
adrianeitor92 comments if the problem increases if you are barefoot when taking the terminal with your hand.
I'm lying on the couch in my panties
Any more details?
If you want, I can do the test in my underwear and in the water ...
If that…
I proposed that because of the theme of the dough! See if you put your tongue on the antenna junction, what happens !!!!
hahaha it wouldn't be a bad idea, we still discovered something new.
When you upload the videos you have made upload them here, please
We'll see. If instead of being an isolated terminal / it were something generalized or a blunder of apple in terms of design, it would happen to EVERYONE. And it is not like that!! There are a number of vodafone users from both ES and UK that does not happen to them at all. This is how we think.
Now let's keep thinking. If it were such a pronounced and serious problem ... could you tell me why the rate of returns of this terminal is so low in the US? Not to mention the millionaire number of "defective" iPhones sold. To be a defective product if units have been sold, don't you think?
This link is interesting: http://www.apple.com/es/antenna/ (various brands) Also design flaw?
If you don't mind, we will continue to think differently from you.
you are fanboys! the mobile continues to fail in Spain!
I have had the iPhone4 for two hours and if you put your finger to something done and wanting the coverage to go away, it goes! But the coverage, the Wifi is luxurious.
The mobile is very fast, the photos impressive, both from the front and rear cameras, and the videos more of the same with both cameras.
Luxury multitasking, all applications open at the same time and without slowing down or anything, very, very good.
Now to order the bumper so that Apple can send it to me
NOTE: 9.5 <- If you want the cover to go, it goes, but it will not go if you are unconscious when putting your hand.
james_bond_nokia excuse me but if you are not a fanboy you are close to graduating! The problem is real, it exists and although that does not affect many of them, it does not mean that the problem does not exist, I repeat because they are going to give free bumpers when they were thinking of selling them ?? It is because they recognize that the problem exists and will not affect everyone in the same proportion but it exists !!!!!!!! Time will determine which was the truth !!!!
You have to be a bit realistic and consistent. I have my iPhone 4 Movistar and if I pick it up with my hand it lowers 1 or maybe 2 bars but, I've been calling all day and the quality of the voice is good, there are no cuts or interferences, that is the important thing about quality Of the call
This user is urgently needed. Explain to me in what proportion these two terminals of the problem are affected.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEM1EuTLU38
Along with the video I could post a number of users that the proportion of the problem they suffer is 0.
What surprises me is that in the video it is perfectly clear that the area does not have 3G coverage, which means that it is an area with little coverage… if we add that you may have had a phone in poor condition…. 1 + 1 = 2
What is clear is that all the forums are full of comments from users who have just acquired the iPhone 4 and they all say the same thing, that the coverage does not happen to them. Me included. Therefore, perhaps an isolated case can be thought of.
Anyway, go to the store where you bought it and, since 7 days have not passed, they will exchange it for a new one.
james_bond_nokia
Let's see…. That the iPhone4 has the antenna design problem (which Apple half recognized) does not mean that the iPhone4 is not the best terminal in Apple's history, since no one can deny that it is an excellent mobile, the retina display , the cameras, flash, the unique fluidity and interface, the background applications etc, the following sometimes happens to have some things we recind others…. for example you say that the return rates are low, that does not mean that the problem does not exist! the following happens: most users because they have an iphone ???? Undoubtedly, due to its benefits, users put on the balance the amount of benefits of the mobile and on another the issue of the antenna, and therefore the one with the most weight falls and crushes the other. You cannot relate the issue of returns to the problem of the antenna, because iphone users are very particular !!!
ahhh and if the user is a fanboy I won't even tell you !!!
I contribute that I catch the iphone 4 of 16 gb with movistar and it does not lose coverage by covering the union of antennas, for now the test that I started doing at the first moment was that.
Greetings, I do not know if they will all be, oe I was lucky,
Right here you have a user that you can ask when they are affected by the problem.
DonVito has a newly acquired terminal, as explained just above.
It is indisputable that in some terminals there is a problem. In how many? It is not known. but from there to that it is generalized…. it's a bit of a stretch.
Deu, tell me where is Apple's acknowledgment of the error or design problem? To see if you inform yourself well before speaking for free.
David, the recognition is not explicit but implicit when giving away the bumpers and covers for free when at first they thought to sell them, and it is also implicit in the videos that Apple posted about the coverage problems of other mobile phones from other brands, from RIM, NOKIA etc.
What a bombardment of comments ... First of all, those who neither have nor want an iPhone 4, what are they supposed to do putting weeds here? Trolling somewhere else. The same goes for those who claim to have it and do not return it even if I lose coverage without touching it (to waste time here, I lose it at the Vodafone counter until they give me another one). To those who have their iPhone 4 and do not lose coverage or lose a negligible value, congratulations! You are within the despicable and disposable and non-existent minority (for some resentful) of more than three million users satisfied (and growing) with their phone.
I have the iphone 4 with orange and I do not lose any signal! I have been today at the English court in Barcelona I can assure you that the model I have does not lose anything I swear to you
but having that is normal ... if you want the coverage of a mobile to go, you can get it ...
I have a crossover htc, and I have never had coverage problems but if you want it to lose coverage you can do it.
First of all my apologies for the spelling warnings to Adrianeitor92, Anyway I am not going to solve anything and above all I am going to earn enemies and bad karma…. azí qe ejcrivir komo qeraís.
It is true that writing with the iphone and the "autocorrect" activated plays tricks sometimes, in fact I am writing with the iphone and I do not rule out any ñapa after sending the post. Adrian, the truth is that you are contributing things although I think yours is a case of bad luck like the one who buys a Jaguar and the engine begins to fail ... Try to get it to be exchanged for another man! have one ... How envious! Do not be discouraged by the comments on the forums, it is true that you wanted to warn us but you already know how this anonymity and the internet works we are all very brave writing left and right with total impunity.
Congratulations to those of you who have an iPhone 4, you give me "insane" envy !!! … By the way, could you report us how the drums are going ???, thank you!
Greetings!
But there you are in a low coverage area! You don't even have all the GPRS bars: S ...
What did you expect to happen? If apple clearly said that it loses signal in an area with low coverage.
What leoclaxon says to me also makes me a lot of noise ... if it is a problem of all cell phones, why give cases !?
It's outrageous how stubborn you are, that the loss of signal is normal ... What happens to all of you, it seems that you don't want to hear this !! You want to continue ranting left and right, go out for a walk, to have dinner with your girlfriend or friends, I don't know….
Well, today I have tested it in an area where as long as I say always is I have always had 5 stripes with the 3GS
This is the video of the iPhone 4 losing coverage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLHlKLke9rM
And this iPhone 3GS that no matter how much I hold it does not lose coverage (it is not in HD because I have uploaded it from the iPhone 4 without an application):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TDlPghLvQU
A greeting and thus a problem is reported that even if it is to a majority or a minority, exists, I do not invent it or I or all of us who upload these videos
A greeting
hello !!!!
Well, I bought the iPhone 4 with movistar and it doesn't lose coverage!
I have tried to take it as in the video that adrianeitor92 has uploaded, and I do not lose any hairline, neither at rest, nor calling
adrianeitor92, it would be nice if you posted the videos with the 3GS and the 4, but for it to be objective I think that you should put the iOS 3 on the 4.0.1GS so that the way to measure the coverage is the same.
For Pedro:
You're right
But I'll wait for the jailbreak to be released for iOS 4.0.1
I just unboxed
It's my first unboxing so don't ask too much
Now I'll leave it up (it's 350Mb) and when I get home tonight I'll post it to you (too bad I don't have the logme in ignition ...)
What happens that someone thought that here would be different?
There is much talk about the issue of coverage ... Yes! how heavy!
Much is written about the topic of coverage ... Yes! how heavy!
Well, if you talk so much, why don't you realize THAT THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS !!!!!!
- SITUATION 1: Take the device (iPhone 4, 3GS, BlackBerry, Nokia 3210 ... ALL) completely surrounding it with your hand, holding it as if you were hugging it with your fingers. What's going on? Human flesh, although it sounds incongruous, is conductive (due to its high water content) but it also shields signals (that is precisely why X-rays or CT scans or all that work). It is something LOGICAL, it is something PHYSICAL, for that reason the iPhone 4 loses coverage taking it like this, but EXACTLY THE SAME as the rest of the devices. On this point, about this situation nothing can be said to Apple, because it is not their fault.
- SITUATION 2: Connection of the GSM and WIFI antennas, even more when the WIFI is activated. Due to the peculiar antenna design of the iPhone 4, on the outside, right in the area of contact with the user's hand. It is then when the problem that at least "many" iPhone 4 users suffer, since interference occurs between both antennas, reducing the signals received, in cases dramatically and even coming to a halt.
We have all seen many videos of people taking the devices as if they were going to steal them, like a monkey holding a branch, but it is precisely that the problem attributable to the iPhone 4 does not occur in that situation. It is not necessary to go around the terminal, the only thing that is needed is to CONNECT BOTH ANTENNAS.
What does not happen to everyone? Of course not. Why? First, because not everyone has the same conductivity. With my hands cured of calluses from working, I have much less conductivity than my girlfriend, with the hands of an office worker, who the hardest thing they have done has been to remove some staples from some documents. Second, because it also depends on the amount of sweat that the hands secrete, since the same flesh is a conductor, but the sweat is much more so and there are people who do not sweat at all while there are people who have to get to operate to remedy it. Third, there are millions of possible hedging situations. A lot, a little, a lot, an outrage or a pittance. I live next to an English Court, which has a Vodafone antenna on its roof. I ALWAYS have a beastly coverage and I don't even sit on the phone low, but there are many other situations, in which any intervention, voluntary or accidental, due to a design error or chance of nature, makes it suffer.
What do I mean by all this? that the large number of variables that exist, make it possible for it to happen to people and not to happen to others.
Whoever says it is to everyone is lying, first because of everything explained and second because there is evidence of people to whom it does not happen.
Whoever says that it happens to nobody is lying, first because of what has been explained and second because there is evidence of people to whom it happens.
What if it is MERIDIALLY CLEAR that the antenna problem (SITUATION 2) exists. And why do I say crystal clear? Well, precisely because even APPLE HAS ADMITTED IT, not explicitly but implicitly, losing a lot of millions of dollars giving away bumpers and covers.
Why is it said that he admits it implicitly and not explicitly? because if it is done explicitly, that is, saying "YES, THE DEVICE HAS A DESIGN PROBLEM", any user could claim a refund of the money, the restitution of the terminal and even some hypothetical compensation.
If they admit it implicitly, that is, saying "THERE IS NO PROBLEM, BUT WE WILL GIVE COVERS TO USERS", no one can claim anything because what they are doing is having a detail with their customers, but they get the same, solve the physical problem contact of both antennas.
Who lose money? of course, but much less than returning or repairing terminals.
Hi, it is the first time that I write here, and the truth is I am a new iphone user, I bought the iphone 4 16 gb with vodafone on Friday. To date I had never had an iPhone, I had only used my brother-in-law and sister's. I had and I have the htc hd2, a marvel, but after spending a day and a half with the iphone I have to say that there is no point of comparison. The iPhone is by far a better smartphone, more fluid use, more apps, more everything, and that I was delighted with my hd2 but this iPhone surpasses it.
Regarding the issue of coverage, on my device if it happens, in an area of low coverage that if, when I am in areas with good coverage it does not flinch, also to say that I have never managed to completely run out of coverage, it is like muxo in a bar and doing that for a long time conscientiously. With normal use you will not notice it. Likewise, I have already asked for my cover that they give away and I also bought a screen protector and cover, I do not take this child out without a jacket lol just thinking that I drop it or something makes me sick xDD For those who have doubts Do not have them, it is the best there is in mobile telephony, the next thing in Spain would be the nexus or the desire and I can say that it is not the same, it does not reach that level of use, just everything perfect.
There is only one thing that bothers me, you can not close the applications if it is not through the multitasking option? or I am very stupid or it is that it is not possible of another form.
Greetings and thank you.
It can only be done from the multitasking menu
Do not stain, stop bothering with the signal ... we already know this ... why so much insistence fuck with the same ???
They are already giving away the protective "covers", if you do not think this failure then do not buy the iPhone 4 and stop bothering with the same
adrianeitor92 you are a false macho.
Your age says it all xD
17 years old ... if you don't even know what a mobile is xD
It still seems like an isolated case, I'm sorry, but good reviews weigh much more and people who are delighted with this marvel of iPhone ... thanks for warning and of course I don't think you're a fake, I think it's really happening to you Adrianeitor92 , My advice is that if the coverage is not completely gone and you can hold it for a week more than do more tests in other areas and that and if it does not convince you to exchange it for another ... but do not get rid of it man ... . I drool seeing it in your video…. with loss of signal and todooo !!!!
Do not be discouraged by the comments they make to you !, you do not want to, or enter the same game and that's it ... even if you are 17 years old you can show more head and tact by not entering the game of verbal confrontations.
Anyway I tell you, even with loss of coverage ... joers!, Congratulations for being lucky enough to have an iPhone 4 ... I have at least 6 months to a year left until I can take the step to change .... snifffs !!!
At the moment it seems that there are only cases with vodafone ... suspect
Now I mime with an iPhone 3GS in an area where the coverage fluctuates from the maximum to the minimum, really!, And the data network is totally intermittent, it goes from 3G to edge constantly ... Logically it is not a problem with the iPhone 3GS, but if it were an iPhone 4 the news would go around the world and there would be press conferences about it. That is why I think that to give more rigor to the test it would have to be a place where it is known that the coverage is stable ... Vodafone does not seem to me to be one of the companies with a very reliable coverage that we say ... I changed several years ago from Vodafone to Movistar precisely because of this problem and I assure you that I will not return to vodafone, look what I say, not even if they give me an iPhone 4 32Gb ... I am autonomous and I travel a lot, my voice and data communications are essential at certain times when I am away ... I'm not gambling, even if I have to go through the p ... tadas that the blue company makes us go through with its terrible callcenters, in the end it must be recognized that in coverage they are not surpassed by other companies of the same ilk.
And at the end of a comment like this I always like to advise: it is my opinion, that I do not want to sit in the chair, it is my personal experience that does not have to coincide with that of the majority and that everyone is free to think and write what they want as long as you don't hurt anyone's feelings or disrespect.
Greetings!
Maybe by taking the phone with both hands and covering the phone as much as we can, you will be left with less coverage ... all phones lose coverage ... from the best Nokia, Sony, ...
Who does not like it, return it, so we people who are not all day looking for the failure will have it ...
I also have the iPhone and doing what you do does not lower me a bar.
I said, that you have skipped a defective mobile.
Wing 😉
if you realize the signal only drops when the «adrianeitor92 reader» covers the back corner of the iphone, where logically the antenna is. when he lowers his finger the signal goes all the way up again.
hopefully look for another way to fool people ... without a doubt NOW THE IPONE4 is the best phone in the world.
I'm surprised that this topic continues to generate so many comments. Take a look around you for a moment: the facts have made things clear without room for discussion.
**** If the iPhone 4 has a problem, it is so little noticeable that almost 100% of the people do not prevent them from using the phone NORMALLY and that is why it continues to sell and there are no massive returns ****
These are the facts, problem or no problem. From here on, discussing whether the antenna is short-circuited by touching it with the finger, the tongue, or the feet is a waste of time: the consumer DOES NOT CARE because what they buy works for them as they expect.
Well, I have it since Sunday with movistar and if my coverage drops ... but I have to take it like a Mongolian to get it down so in principle I will put the cover on it ... if I see that it affects the calls, I'll give it to myself. milk, but for now I'm happy
Very good to everyone!
I am waiting for the mediamark to have stock, which is where I have it reserved, I am looking forward to having it.
The loss of coverage when covering the antenna is normal. Yesterday I did it with my girlfriend's Sony ericcson Viera and under two stripes and just when you remove your hand she recovers them. I have tried it repeatedly and 90% of the time the same thing always happens. What happens is that if that happens to the new iPhone 4 then the news travels all the media. I do not care if a line falls, since in my house, work and many places that I frequent I have high coverage with moviestar that I am going to get it with.
I'm going to get the 16gb one, I hope I don't fall short. I have an 2gb 8g iPod touch and it is very close to me even though the truth is that I have a lot of music inserted and I also have the 32gb iPad (Wi-Fi) than what I use at home and with this I already have more than enough.
A question for those of you who have an iPhone with moviestar, does the 200 mb of the € 15 rate fall short? Esque I am doubting between € 15 200 mb or € 25 1gb and € 90 cheaper for the iPhone 4.
Greetings to all!
Hello friends, I am using my iphone 4 with simyo and I do not notice a loss of signal
Well, for a week I have my iPhone 4 with Vodafone Spain. I live in a relatively small city, with a 3G coverage that normally does not exceed 3 or 4 lines. Well, holding the iPhone normally with the left hand, touching with the palm on the point of separation of the two antennas as shown in the video at the beginning of the page, it REALLY lowers my coverage although I don't get to stay in a single line but in two, that is, half of what the phone had before picking it up like this, which being left-handed as I am, is the most common. This with my iPhone 2G did not happen to me, ergo the problem of the antenna EXISTS (and yes, I have done the same test deactivating the 3G: from 4 to 2 lines of coverage). I must say that I really expected the antenna problem to be a huge media exaggeration, and in the end I found that it was not such an exaggeration: the basic problem exists, but it is not critical because the phone does not lose coverage completely, nor does he miss calls. Therefore, to those who did not believe that the problem was so obvious (as I am, I'm afraid), tell them that it really is there, that it is not terrible, and that it certainly seems that by the time Apple realized, it was already too late to fix and had to be released as is. Be careful, it is an EXTRAORDINARY phone, it has come out with a small defect, what can you do? It is not too problematic and, in fact, every electronic object that surrounds us has its pluses and minuses. Anyway, there is my experience, a bit bittersweet in the end, but what are we going to do! 🙂
I am lucky to have bought one with the damn problem. I live 50 meters from the vodafone antenna, so any mobile phone from the company gives the maximum coverage. It is not necessary to hold the iphone4 as if it were going to fall. Just, I hold it by the corners with two fingers, and then I lightly put the flame of the finger in the forbidden zone and catapun !, loss of a bar (20db according to the Strenght app). I have called apple technical assistance and a lady very kindly tells me not to hold the mobile in the forbidden way, and I am almost stupid and not to hold the new iphone4, and to put a cover on it. Honestly, I let you know my discomfort after buying a mobile that is worth 700eur. As I told you, I live next to a vodafone antenna, but I have tried in places with poor coverage and the problem: YOU RUN OUT OF 3G, I don't understand it. With a stay of 18 months and an associated data / voice triplet, I'm not going to rest until they change it, I'm sick of this ... By the way, I already had to change the iphone 3g because it didn't connect to the wifi, that's fine ...
Currin: That you lose a single bar of coverage should be enough to realize the exaggeration of those who claimed that it was all gone. Two bars are gone, as I said before, and I have not missed calls or it is not an impediment to use the iPhone 4. On the 3G, ask Vodafone and its poor 3G coverage: today I was in the Alhambra with some family and friends; my brother with a brand new Nokia N97 almost without coverage anywhere, the others the same, and I like them with or without a cover, so if there is a culprit: Vodafone.
Good morning, I wanted to tell you about my experience with the new Iphone 4, in my case it is not a loss of signal, the problem I have is the following, being full of 3G coverage, and making a call, after between 38 and 90 seconds, They stop listening to me, the call does not stop, they just do not hear me, if I deactivate the 3g it does not happen, and if the area has poor coverage and the 3g goes to GSM it does not happen either, I have restored, updated and tested everything but the bug persists, I don't know to what extent what you say about the sim may be the problem, it is very rare that systematically, after those seconds the microphone stops working and they do not hear me only in 3G, the part of the sim that can stick with the support, is the area that manages the 3G? By the way my operator is vodafone ..
Forgive me, I have copied an answer from another site, when I talk about the sim, I have seen that they state that the failure of the signal is due to the cut of the micro sim, which makes contact with the support that supports it .. it makes mass and clear loss of coverage.
Hello again, well I have to tell you that after the 5th call, that is to say the sixth, it was again, so I stayed as I was, I changed the sim again, asking for a duplicate, and more or less the same thing happened to me , the first calls very well but in the end it cascaded, after many tests, I miraculously lowered the firmware of the iphone to 4.0.1 without doing anything, this I have to say that I was surprised because I had 4.0.2 installed, total, I kept trying and looking at many forums, in one of them, I don't remember which one, they mentioned some kind of problem between the 3G and the Mail Push .. some kind of network error, which didn't even give the phone tone… that gave me that Think, the fact is that the push was activated, and the mail app was always open, except as soon as I started the phone, despite deactivating the push and putting it in manual, when it leaves there it stays open, I deactivated multitasking , I installed the sbsettings and when it stays in memory I kill the process. In summary, I have been with these changes since Sunday, making sure that mail is not in memory, while this is the case the calls are heard perfectly, if I am not careful, and it remains open or in memory, the calls with 3g do not exceed 90 seconds, after that time they stop hearing me, so…. I think this time the origin of the problem I know, but a definite solution, no idea ... I suppose it is some soft bug of the Iphone 4 and its management of the 3g, I have read in an American forum that they have quite a few problems with the 3G and the way to manage it from the Iphone 4, which apparently is different from the 3G or 3GS….
I have an Iphone 4 with Vodafone for 15 days. I live in the heart of Madrid and I often have total losses of coverage, the maximum I have at home is 2 lines, and in all the calls I make from home there is continuous interference. With another mobile and Yoigo I have always had great coverage. To make matters worse, the phone detects very few WiFi networks, at home from the Mac I pick up 6 and the IPhone only catches me 1 and sometimes 2, in other places the WiFi has also happened to me. The coverage on the street is not that drastic, but often several words are cut off every minute ... I'm thinking that these problems might be due to some defect in my phone in particular, what do you think? Has anyone happened to the coverage or the wifi? All the best
San: I also have an iPhone 4 with Vodafone, but in my case I live near Barcelona. If I have 3G activated and the phone without a cover, inside the house the coverage is on two or three lines, and if I take it by hand in the "dodgy way" the coverage can go down to just 1 line. Despite everything, I don't miss calls so I don't usually worry. As for the WiFi networks, it detects as many as the laptop with WiFi and Windows XP that I have at home, maybe you should look at how much signal comes from those networks that you tell your mac, because the iPhone antenna will always be smaller and with less reception than the iMac (which I understand is quite large). Another thing about the coverage: if you have WiFi inside the house and you have problems with 3G, deactivate it and stay on the EDGE / GPRS for a lifetime: it will use less battery, you will have full coverage whatever you take, and even if you don't have WiFi you would continue to receive email, notifications from your applications, etc. I must say that I have the feeling that the 3G in Spain is quite badly assembled, because in Barcelona capital, the 3G fluctuates that it is a pleasure to go with my iPhone or with a friend and his HTC or Nokia on duty. I hope I have been helpful!
good friends I have an iphone 4 version 5.0.1, mc603e model, firmware 04.11.08, the question is like this, I have internet, but I have no signal at all or a signal stick, I have passed it through forums and fors and not I come to a conclusion about what could happen to him, I am from Costa Rica and my line is from the ice (kolbi3g)…. I thank you with all my heart, thank you very much God bless you !!!