Obsolescence or innovation in the iPhone 5c and 5s

Obsolescence at Apple

Users of iPhone 4 and 4S have discovered that with the new operating system IOS 7, the battery of their terminal lasts less and less. We all know that batteries are only prepared for a certain number of charge cycles and then lose effectiveness, then Should we change the battery or change the terminal?.

The answer is simple, with some pricing plans lthe difference between changing the battery or switching to a new iPhone 5c or 5s can cost 20 euros.

The conspiracy theory fans see Apple the use of the scheduled obsolescence. If iPhones always work, people who already own a device are not going to buy a new one. On the other hand, selling products with finite life cycles can be good for consumers, if it represents significant improvements in the service they offer.

Economists have theories about market conditions that promote programmed obsolescence. A company has strong incentives to degrade the durability of the product when it has a great market power and consumers do not have good substitutes to choose from. When Apple started making the iPhone in 2007, their product was so innovative that it could have deliberately limited durability. But in the past two years, the company has faced a tougher competition which should discourage planned obsolescence.

IPod obsolescence

Similarly, iPhone users have purchased add-on productssuch as apps, docs, cables, etc., which cannot transfer to Android phones. These costs that would result from the change increase Apple's incentives to force its existing customers to renew, by causing older models to gradually become dysfunctional.

The alternative to downgrading the old model is for the company to offer innovations in the new model that make the upgrade irresistible. Some indicate that the improvements of the iPhones 5s and 5c justify the renewal of their terminal.

Why do you change your iPhone model?

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  1.   Jaime Rueda said

    For now I am not going to change my iphone 5, there is no innovation that truly changes the use of the device completely; Money is also another factor but I don't worry about looking for the money for the iPhone 5s if I don't see the need for the change, if the terminal is given to me I would not reject it hahaha conclusion, for now I feel good with my current terminal so no I see a need to change neither to the 5s nor to any other device, at least I would not make the investment for now

  2.   Luis said

    I changed from 4 to 5 because the 4 flew ... out of my pocket ... but having the 5 at the moment I do not see at all necessary to buy a 5s. It goes like lightning on 5. NEITHER the 5s or any other device. And that the 4th was lasting me since 2010 and I wanted to hold out until the 6th… .but it will not be.

  3.   aarancon said

    This article was written by you Carmen? I'm telling you because I can't understand the improvements in the iPhone 5c, could you explain to me the improvements and innovations that the iPhone 5c presents with respect to the terminal it replaces (iPhone 5)?

    1.    Juanka said

      The only improvement that the iPhone 5C has is its delicate plastic casing. Nothing else. The iPhone 5C is the same iPhone 5. For me the iPhone 5C is nothing innovative.

      1.    aarancon said

        Improvement? I suppose you answer me using irony in the same way that I have used it in my comment, right?

        1.    Carmen rodriguez said

          Well, let's see, improvement can also exist in terms of design and you have to accept that the change is, for some, very interesting and striking. I do not share it but I do not deny its existence ...

          1.    aarancon said

            Mother of God!!! look I answer you in the other post because yours is for note.

            1.    iphoneator said

              jajajjajaj this carmen there is no where to catch her. It is bought by Apple for sure

          2.    rafa said

            that phone is not apple no matter how much you insist! And if you were really fans and / or connoisseurs of the brand, you would agree that this 5c does not follow the philosophy established by our beloved Steve Jobs (rest assured) that has led them to be No. 1 in innovative and cutting-edge technology

    2.    Carmen rodriguez said

      It is an exercise of opinion, as you will see I put myself in both positions, I have an iPhone 5 and I am not going to change to any other model at the moment, but I do know two people who have changed to the 5c just because it is colored and «se looks more modern »… tastes like colors. I do not see improvements to the 5c, only innovation in design.
      But I wonder if it is by chance that the batteries scratch the life limit of just 8 hours when the next model comes out.

    3.    Lluis said

      None and we all know it that is why they are not selling that model as they would like

      1.    Carmen rodriguez said

        Perhaps this is not the market for which the iPhone 5c was designed, we are not alone in the world ...

        1.    aarancon said

          Would you be so kind as to tell me for which specific markets the iPhone 5c has been designed and why?

          1.    Carmen rodriguez said

            For example, in the US with AT&T you have unlimited calls and internet for the equivalent of about $ 22 a month. See the offer on AT&T itself https://www.att.com/wireless/iphone/#fbid=QB65SPMbRdX
            And the reason is obvious, for those who cannot afford an iPhone 5s but want a latest model iPhone.

            1.    aarancon said

              Let's see if I understand it…

              You answer me saying that perhaps the iPhone 5c has not been designed for our market and to my question about which markets it has been designed for, do you answer me with a specific offer from an American telephone company? Are you answering me seriously or are you kidding me?

              1.    iphoneator said

                Every day that passes aarancon we realize that this page is bought by apple to defend the fiasco of the iphone 5c and motivate apple fans to buy it! but you can rest assured because like you (if you've been an apple fan) most of us who want a better apple have realized the deception, there is no innovation. it is more expensive and it is an iphone 5 disguised as plastic. Until the next generation I'm going to wait no matter how hard these writers try to convince us that the 5c is a perfect product to buy. There are no reasons for this and that is why you see the bad sales that are suffering with that model


              2.    for the moderator said

                If we don't want you to change the way you work, but rather give a slap on the wrist to certain blog editors! I don't come here to read that Apple is the best or try to convince us of something when it isn't! I fundamentally want technological objectivity and if Apple does something wrong, let YOU be the first to say so and defend our interests! This would be a «actualidadiphone» and not what we are reading lately from 2 or 3 of your editors


              3.    aarancon said

                Exactly, that's what I wanted to achieve, but… You see, now I'm a hater.


              4.    wakandel said

                Gonzalo, I think we know Aarancon previously from other forums (gsmspain) and I think he has always defended everything related to Apple, so judging him as a hater for criticizing IOS7 is, from my point of view, out of place. I myself have all the iPads except the iPad4, I have had an iPhone since the 3g (waiting for the 5s to arrive ordered from the Apple Store), all the iPod touches... and what do you want me to say: the iPhone 5c also seems like a tease, although in the end we are free to buy it or not. And if we remember a little we will be more fair: From Actualidad Iphone There was talk of an approximate price for the iPhone 5c (I don't know if it was Nacho or Pablo) that is not even close to the final price, so if you estimate a price of about 350/400 euros free and the terminal costs 599 free euros, I think we can say that it is a phone that is too expensive for what it offers (I understand that your assessment was not only due to rumors but also to the fact that it is an iPhone5 with poorer quality materials), at the end of the day everything is good or bad depending on the price you pay for it. And personally, out of respect, I tell you that you are beginning to fall into what Aarancon comments, in going from informing to disseminating. If that is the meaning of this website, there is no protest. If the point is to inform, I think it is fair to criticize the iPhone 5c as a whole instead of defending it as if it were shame. I think your readers want objectivity, not constant brainwashing that says "Apple is the best, Apple is the innovation, Apple is the future...". It is my humble opinion. You have to listen to readers to be able to improve, you have to be humble to improve. Greetings and thanks for the website and for your daily efforts.


              5.    aarancon said

                Thank you very much for your answer and for your support.


              6.    Sebas said

                go on like this man, you have to defend what you think, not what they tell you, you have to think


              7.    fer said

                A clarification: but it is an adversative conjunction (replaces "but") as well as destination. I understand that you should have written "yes no"


              8.    fer said

                What was I thinking, hahaha. Fate is used in phrases like. "It is not high, but low." The conditional yes and the non-negation are separated. The but is the apple that I'm going to eat, ajjaja. Sorry for the lapse, I'm working and it becomes difficult to write at the same time, hahaha.


              9.    aarancon said

                I think the comments that other colleagues have given you perfectly summarize what I wanted to say. I am not a stranger in the forums of the Apple world and many people know that I do not come here to rant against Apple for free as if it were the hater you want to turn me into. When I answer, I do so loaded with arguments and reasons that no one has been able to refute, at least seriously (Carmen's answer is a good example of this) and that can lead to a serious debate.

                It seems incredible that you are precisely the one who answers me in the way that you have responded and insulted me since we know each other a little more than what the entries and opinions that we leave here let us know.

                I've been following Actualidad (the two blogs) for a long time and what is happening now has NEVER happened. That seems fine to you, perfect. But keep in mind that I have not changed, the ones who have changed and to the very worst are you.

                At no time do I intend to change people's opinion because I believe that what I think is the truth without more. In ALL my answers about the 5c and iOS 7 I give arguments that at the moment nobody has been able to refute me, it will be for something, don't you think?

                I'm not against Apple products, tell me in which post I have criticized the iPhone 5s as a phone, tell me just one (and I hope you don't answer that in Pablo's entry because I remind you that in that entry the purchase was recommended that of a defective device and this already cries out to heaven), or criticizing the new iPads or MAC's. What if I am against, apparently you no longer, is that Apple cheats with the iPhone 5c. That you, precisely you who are perfectly familiar with Apple's phone renewal guidelines, defend this scam seems incredible to me, but yourself.

                I do not consider myself a geek at all, from what I see if you consider yourself as such. I am a user who liked Apple, Steve Jobs's Apple, not what Cook and Ive are turning it into. I have not read any of you a criticism of iOS 7, not a single one which seems incredible to me, not a single protest for a change that involves a 360º turn to what Apple always was. And again, I have not seen anyone criticize the iPhone 5c scam. I just read you EVERY day to say that EVERYTHING Apple does is wonderful and that there is nothing more to say (your answer is a good example of it).

                The fact that you like Apple (I liked it too and you know it) and you write in a blog about it does not mean that you have to idolize Apple above the layer of heaven. There is something called objectivity that you have completely lost. You weren't an Apple outreach blog, you were an information blog. I see from your response that this has changed and I thank you that you have finally confirmed me and, incidentally, have confirmed to all of us that Actualidad has become an Apple disclosure blog without any objectivity. What I advise you is that some of you contact Apple so that they at least pay you for this new way of working (although it seems that it already does).

                It was nice while it lasted, Apple and Actualidad iPhone/iPad. For my part, waiting for your response, I am leaving the blog; To read that EVERYTHING Apple does is wonderful and that no editor can have a critical point towards it, I refer to Apple's original website because I am going to read the same thing.

                That yes, Gonzalo always remembers that I have not changed, you have changed. If when you offered me to be a blogger, what you expected was a writer totally submitted to Apple, you were very, very wrong. Apparently we both won with my decision not to be.

                Don't worry, you won't see any responses from me again, for better or for worse (except for the responses to your, I hope, comments here). So you can continue with your new role .. Disclosure on how wonderful Apple is whatever you do, say what you say, and sell what you sell.


              10.    wakandel said

                Aarancon, I don't think it's to be taken that way either. Gonzalo has not confirmed that it is a dissemination website. Kids also have the right to think that the iPhone 5c is the bomb, right? I think it would be the bomb but at 350 euros, not 599 euros. A good phone at a reasonable price aimed at wealthy kids. In the end everything is determined by the price of the phone. Someone from actualidad Iphone Do you recommend buying the iPhone 5c at the price of 599 euros?
                I think you have enough knowledge to take what interests you and not take what does not interest you. This is like the editorial line of a newspaper: depending on the degree of objectivity they have, they will have one or the other readers. I hope that Gonzalo, as head of the editors, clarifies us if their intention is to be objective or just to promote everything related to the Iphone and Ipad. When Gonzalo responds (which he will), we will generally know what to expect.


              11.    aarancon said

                The problem is not whether the 5c is a bomb or not. The problem is that Apple tries to scam its most fanatical customers with it and in Actualidad iPhone It seems that not only do they agree with it but they defend it tooth and nail because it is something made by Apple and therefore it must be defended no matter what. Including the word innovation and iPhone 5c in an article is an inconsistency in itself and many readers of the blog are tired of seeing how this scam is always encouraged and defended in the blog we have followed.

                I repeat that the price is not the heart of the matter of the phone, but the withdrawal of the iPhone 5 to replace it. If the offer were (which is how it should have been), iPhone 5c entry, iPhone 5 mid-range and iPhone 5s as the star terminal would have nothing to say or object. But replacing a glass and aluminum terminal with another exactly the same but made of plastic and at the price that the iPhone 5 should have had now, is a scam like the top of a pine tree. Scam yes, scam because this is designed for fans of the brand that are millions and Apple knows it, for those who with respect to Apple have reduced reasoning capacity and would buy absolutely everything they could buy and that had the logo of the bitten apple.

                Don't you see that now Actualidad iPhone has become a dissemination blog? Well, I and many other readers see it clearly. Gonzalo I have written in his response and also very clearly that this is the case, that since they like Apple they will not write any criticism of the company. What's more, even in his response he once again defends the iPhone 5c. Look how far this goes, he even insults me by calling me a hater when he knows me outside of these lines and knows perfectly well who I am and how I am.


              12.    wakandel said

                I see what I see, but I am giving Gonzalo the opportunity to deny it. If you do not deny it, then we will know what there is. Put to interpret, is an innovation an iPhone with colored casings ... Is that the innovation? Or is the innovation Tim's goal attempt? Anyway.


              13.    gnzl said

                Deny that? We didn't write for Apple?

                It is as if they ask you if you are stupid, there is no answer except that you are.
                That someone does not like iOS 7 or 5c does not mean that they are bad


              14.    aarancon said

                I have not said that you write for Apple, what I have said, like many other blog readers, is that it seems so, at least in many of the articles that have been written lately, and this one by Carmen is one of them.

                I have already commented on many occasions that iOS 7 is not a mere matter of taste, it is a total destruction of everything that Apple meant to date, and you as a veteran editor and Apple follower for a long time should be the first to say it. After this, the one that you like comes in and others don't, but first things first, and the first thing about iOS 7 is what it means and as I say it means ending everything that Apple has meant so far for all and also for you.

                The same I tell you about the iPhone 5c, it is not about whether I like it or not, it is about what they have done to get it out. They have disguised as new and as an innovation a terminal that is neither of the two things at all. You only have to watch the first seconds of Ive's video in which he says that the iPhone 5c is new and no, it is not, you know it and also better than anyone.

                If only things had been the way they always have been. Anyone who now would have wanted to buy an iPhone 5 would pay the 599 that the 5c is worth but having an aluminum and glass terminal and not a plastic one. Of course, if as you say (I sincerely hope not) it sells well, Apple's move is masterful, I ask the same thing I should ask for a terminal that costs me a lot more money to produce and therefore I earn a lot more than the one that uses it. replaces it costs me much less to make. As I say, it would be masterful. It is as if a jeweler charges his clients the same for exactly the same earring, one in gold and the other in silver, but to make sure I eliminate the gold one and leave the silver one at the same price. If that model of earring has fans behind (as Apple does), they would be being deceived, don't you think?

                As head of the editors, you only have to go through the latest news and see what your readers think about them. Don't you want to see it? Well, perfect Gonzalo, maybe when the loss of blog readers is evident the touch that you should give, they give it to you.


              15.    gnzl said

                The problem is not what you say, it is how you say it.

                Of course it is a matter of taste, everything in life is a matter of opinion, beautiful or ugly, right or wrong.
                The problem is that you affirm as truth what is nothing more than an opinion, an opinion different from mine and from many other people.
                Everyone I know is delighted with iOS 7 (except those with an iPhone 4). And everyone who has seen and touched the 5c seems like a good device, expensive? Very expensive, like everything Apple does.
                And about visits, which I think shouldn't worry readers, there are already excellent measurement tools; tools that give more data than comments, which represent 0,0001% of readers. Your last paragraph goes into topics that do not seem to correspond to you, so please do not go down that path.


              16.    aarancon said

                The problem is how you say things and how you try to defend what is totally indefensible, you have many comments, not just mine, to verify it.

                And no, iOS 7 is not a matter of taste, no matter how hard you try Gonzalo, it is not. iOS 7 breaks with everything that Apple has meant to ALL of us and that goes far beyond a simple matter of taste, at least in the first instance which EVERYONE has completely overlooked.

                It seems strange to me that ALL the people you know are delighted with iOS 7 because among those I know there is everything, but to most it seems like a step backwards. What things huh? In your environment there is no discrepancy and in mine there is. What a coincidence don't you think?

                At no time have I said that the iPhone 5c is a bad device because it is not, it is simply a scam and you still do not want to say it although you know it as well as I do because, I insist, you better than anyone know the terminal renewal guideline from Apple.

                You are right in your last paragraph, the traffic on the page is causing me quite a bit of trouble. Especially now that you have confirmed that Actualidad iPhone/iPad no longer has anything to do with what I knew when I entered the Apple world, a sensational blog with information about the world of the iPhone/iPad that is now nothing more than a dissemination blog about them, in which no There is not a single critical word on the part of its editors no matter what they do, say what they say, or sell what Apple sells.

                A blog in which its editors recommend buying a faulty device knowing that it is. A blog in which its editors talk about innovation in a terminal that the only thing it presents is a change of casing, etc, etc. Come on Gonzalo !!!


              17.    esteban said

                Quiet aarancon that with you we are many apple fans, it is hilarious to read the comments of the moderator who does not justify anything and that is why he has this page The editors who have here are going to lose a reader I prefer pages that do not tell me that Apple is God but that I tell the pros and cons of the products


              18.    wakandel said

                I would be foolish if I bought into the iPhone 5c and the supposed innovation. As for the question, it is very clear... Are you objective or are you "salespeople" for Apple? Do you receive something in return? I think they are very simple questions to answer and that they would clarify the position you are taking lately. actualidadIphone. And before you answer, I'm going to give you my opinion: if the answer is no, I would consider the stupid thing, because I would defend tooth and nail that botched iPhone 5c without receiving anything in return... and if the answer is yes, You could have clarified it before to be able to evaluate this website appropriately, given who sponsors it.
                All this without acrimony. All the best.


              19.    gnzl said

                The question is not clear, it is absurd, Apple does not pay any blog to speak well of it because it has never needed it.
                I'm tired of saying that the iPhone 5c is not to go to the store and say, "here, I'll give you € 600 for an old plastic device", it is not for us (those of us who read blogs about Apple) ... it is a device First of all, a device for the operator on duty to give to all those who want an iPhone just by name.


              20.    wakandel said

                Totally agree. And thanks for the clarification


              21.    aarancon said

                It would be as you say an input device if it had the price of an input device, that is, the one that the iPhone 4S now has (which is where the 5c should be right now).

                By the way, I remind you that for Apple the iPhone 5c is in the mid-range, which is where it had to be (due to Apple's renewal guideline), the iPhone 5. However, they earn much more money by changing the housing of glass and aluminum for a plastic one since the manufacturing cost is much lower.

                Following your argument, anyone who does not read blogs about Apple, now what they would buy at the same price would be a terminal with much higher quality components and the operator that would give it to their customers idem of idem. Is it, or isn't it a scam?


              22.    iphoneator said

                that is not an innovation and therefore there is nothing to discuss. apple has been wrong in the strategy with that model no matter how hard these people try. The only thing that is saved for me from all this new generation is the iPhone 5s (its home button, the gold model and the new 64-bit chip) the rest is left over! Whoever is an apple fan as I consider myself and many of us who read this page, would never consider stopping buying an iPhone 5s with its quality for a 5c for € 100 less ... but it seems that here among the editors there are a few that they are jackets who do not tell the truths that "aarancon" says among others


              23.    don't faint said

                aarancon do not stop giving your opinion in this forum and others please !! You are one of the few here with two fingers in the forehead and who knows what he says with good and objective arguments, something that some other editor here lacks! I also think that Apple has put its hand on this page to positively influence people's opinion about Apple products ... because if not, I won't explain many of their posts favoring the iPhone 5c! this was not like that before


              24.    99 said

                your answer is regrettable! to think that I used to believe that you were one of the most serious writers of this blog.
                What some of your editors have been publishing lately is indefensible. Many times the comments of aarancon or other readers, have more logic, contribute and inform more than your «posts».


            2.    aarancon said

              Let's see if I understand it…

              You answer me saying that perhaps the iPhone 5c has not been designed for our market and to my question about which markets it has been designed for, do you answer me with a specific offer from an American telephone company? Are you answering me seriously or are you kidding me?

            3.    Ale said

              latest model?
              mother of god what you have to hear ,,, latest model for € 600
              brilliant brilliant

            4.    Ale said

              latest model?
              mother of god what you have to hear ,,, latest model for € 600
              brilliant brilliant

            5.    aarancon said

              I answer you again because I see that you have not deigned to answer. The truth is that I think you had no arguments to do it (there are not) and you simply cannot continue with the debate.

              I have no idea what you do or what your passion for Apple devices comes from, I say this for two reasons... The first is because you have only recently been among the team of editors of Actualidad iPhone, and the second because you demonstrate with your opinions that you have no idea what you are talking about, mate.

              In a news story that talks about innovation, how the hell do you dare to include the iPhone 5c? The iPhone 5c is not an innovative terminal at all, do you consider innovation to change one case for another? Because that's the "innovation" that the iPhone 5c has. I suppose that when Samsung brings out a Galaxy with an aluminum casing for you it will be an innovation, right? Please…

              What you have answered me with respect to the markets that I have asked you is of shame companion, and if I were the person in charge of the editors right now you would be fired. This is a blog for older people, not for young children, and your response to defend the indefensible is absolutely pathetic and unworthy of someone who can be considered an information blog writer.

              The iPhone 5c is nothing more than a ploy, a scam by Apple to get money from its most fanatical followers, nothing more. The hackneyed argument that emerging markets are the iPhone 5c's raison d'être is a pine-tree fallacy because the iPhone 5c follows EXACTLY the same price drop pattern as EVERY time before, that is, when the 4 replaced the 3GS, the 4S to the 4, and the 5 to the 4S. They simply replace an aluminum and glass phone with a plastic one, but inside they are EXACTLY the same. Obviously with the enormous benefits that the change of material would produce for Apple. Of course the other argument to benefit the sales of the 5s is another fallacy since, again, on previous occasions the star terminal has NEVER been overshadowed by the price drop of the previous model.

              I do not know what the hell is happening in Actualidad and I mean the two blogs but it is becoming more and more clear that the writers of both blogs (there are always honorable exceptions), are simply a kind of fans obsessed in defending Apple say what you say, and do what you do without a single critical point. Or maybe it is the top of the blog that tells them not to discuss or criticize something created or said by Apple.

              Actualidad iPhone and Actualidad iPad are going from being information blogs to Apple dissemination blogs; and of course I came, or at least I came, here to find out both the good and the bad. If this continues like this I will have to delete the page from my favorites, and go to find out about other pages or blogs more serious than this one. Those yes, rest assured that I will not be the only one, you only have to read the comments of various news items to see that your readers are beginning to be quite indignant.

          2.    Carmen rodriguez said

            For example, in the US with AT&T you have unlimited calls and internet for the equivalent of about $ 22 a month. See the offer on AT&T itself https://www.att.com/wireless/iphone/#fbid=QB65SPMbRdX
            And the reason is obvious, for those who cannot afford an iPhone 5s but want a latest model iPhone.

  4.   Eduardo said

    Scheduled obsolescence! This is what happens in Apple, I had my iPhone 4 working very well and much better than other terminals of the competition; but I updated to ios7 and it got slow and new applications asked me for a faster processor!
    With regret I sold my iPhone 4 and with joy I bought the 5.
    You can tell the difference from afar!
    But actually the iPhone 4 was still useful for 3 more years, but thinking about it, imagine what Apple will have to show us in 3 years?
    Everything is going so fast

    1.    Juanka said

      You just answered my question. The same thing is happening to you with my old iPhone 3GS that when I installed iOS6 it became very heavy. The battery thing did not notice much difference between iOS5 and iOS6 I speak in the case of the 3GS

    2.    Carmen rodriguez said

      That is the debate, that the terminal can last longer, but it seems that it is limited to last a couple of years before starting to appear slow, with bugs, etc ... thanks for your comment!

  5.   Sebastián said

    Happy with the iPhone 5, I will not change terminals

    1.    gottan said

      Like me, and that is one of the great advantages of buying an iPhone, at least you have an updated terminal for two or three years. My next iPhone if I have the means would be the 6 at the end of next year.

      1.    Juanka said

        Exactly! And if you have an iPhone 5, this holds until the release of the iPhone 7! In my case with the iPhone 4S it may have support for updates until the release of the iPhone 6S. Hahaha

    2.    Juanka said

      Exactly! Anyone who has an iPhone 5, does not urge to buy an iPhone 5C. Plus these phones last for a considerable number of years with updates! I continue with my iPhone 4S as long as I can. For now it is moving light with iOS7! I do not know if users of an iPhone 4 can say the same about the fluidity of iOS7 on their terminals.

      1.    aarancon said

        Why would I urge an iPhone 5 owner to buy the 5c if it is the same phone but changing the aluminum and glass for a plastic companion? That is, lower the level. I guess you meant 5s and got confused.

  6.   Victor J. said

    "The answer is simple, with some price plans the difference between changing the battery or changing to a new iPhone 5c or 5s can be 20 euros." I hope you refer to the US because otherwise we live in different realities. Here in Spain it is 20 euros yes, but per month and for two years.

    1.    Tethyx said

      hahaha and changing the battery of a 4 / 4s costs € 20

      This is augmented reality.

      1.    Carmen rodriguez said

        The battery change does not cost 20 euros, it is worth much more, that is why you ask yourself to change the complete terminal for 20 euros ...
        I do not have the official cost of Apple, but according to comments in some specialized forums, it costs about 70-80 euros plus VAT.

    2.    Carmen rodriguez said

      Victor, it depends on the expense you make per month, as you know there are times when a contract is cheaper than a free terminal.

  7.   David said

    If you change the battery officially if it can cost you a fortune and the difference between changing it and buying a new terminal must be insignificant to force the consumer to change to a new phone almost by obligation but there are other methods in which for less than 50 euros you can do it and thus save a dough on another iphone, in fact by the official service changing the home button and the rear camera it cost me 160 euros, in a store in my city 40 euros and with a guarantee, with that I say it all.

  8.   abraham1618 said

    I have an iPhone 4 from 2010 and I am doing great with iSO 7.0.3, I'll wait for the iPhone 6 patiently.

    1.    Juanka said

      Cool! How good that you are working super with iOS7.0.3!

  9.   Abel said

    I have had a 4 32gb for 3 years and happier than some castanuelas, waiting for a screen a little bigger that does not arrive, in the end a bargain came out that I could not say no 4s 64gb for 200 euros, with ios 7 and I have changed the battery That it has cost me 5 euros, we are more happy I can not be a couple of years more, I spend with this unless they take something off their hat also the 4s continue to sell it like the ipad 2 for something it will be

  10.   Juanka said

    In my personal experience the difference in Battery performance has always been worse on the first release of an iOS but as it is updated the battery life improves. I understand that this is more of a software problem. So what Apple does to force us to buy the new iPhones is to remove your iPhone from future updates. The same happened with the iPhone 2G, iPhone 3G and iPhone 3GS. The same will happen soon with the iPhone 4.

    1.    Juanka said

      In the iOS7 example the Battery life was lousy with iOS 7.0 but with iOS7.0.3 the Battery life improved considerably. The iPad 2, iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 are a vivid example of that.

  11.   Enrique Gonzalez said

    Honestly, I haven't noticed a major difference since I upgraded to iOS7 on my iPhone 4. In fact, I faced this system. On the other hand, I look forward to changing terminals at the end of the year. In my case, both the iPhone 5, the 5S and the 5C represent good options. For people who already have the iPhone 5 I would recommend waiting for the exit of 6. It is better to change the mobiles in a two-year cycle to see improvements that will reason the change. For my part, I wanted to change my iPhone 4 to have more speed when opening apps and a better camera that offers me more possibilities.

  12.   jorge_bcn said

    Sincerely Carmen, tell me something that this «article» «entry» or whatever you want to call it…. it is totally empty in content. I've been reading some posts for days that leave me that same feeling and coincidentally they are always yours.
    Rethink writing to contribute something, not to fill pages with letters.
    It is an opinion.

    1.    Mario said

      hahaha I find myself in the same situation as you, each day that passes I find less meaning to the posts of this writer

    2.    Alberto Violero Romero said

      It is clear that you would love to write the articles, but since you say that it does not contribute anything and empty of content, right now it has 30 comments while others have none, if it was not interesting or empty of content, you think people would comment on it ?? Please stop criticizing people's work that they don't get into yours.

      1.    jorge_bcn said

        I criticize what I consider objectionable, if you don't like it, you can put up with it, it's that simple. It is my opinion. The fact that there are many comments and / or visits only implies that there is discussion on the subject, not that it has provided any information. It is as if I write: Is there life outside of Earth? And I do not say anything else. There will be discussions, as with this post, but I do not contribute anything, go what Carmen does in this and in 90% of her posts. But I'm telling you, it's my opinion, if you don't think the same, that's fine with me.

  13.   come now said

    Carmen you outgrow yourself with each new publication you make, what does programmed obsolescence mean for you? Are you suggesting that I change my iPhone 4 for the 5c or 5s because Apple does not want to improve iOS 7 for this phone?

    1.    Carmen rodriguez said

      Do you mean that your iPhone 4 is perfect in performance with iOS 7 ?. Have you ever considered buying a new terminal? …. these are the questions I ask ..

      1.    Mario Escriva said

        that's why it's not going well, should I consider changing it? if it has been a phone that I have not had any failure so far !!! But for that very reason I say that it would not be better for Apple to be the one that released a really good update so that this would not happen? and not having to consider the change due to planned obsolescence

  14.   Alexander AA  said

    I still have the 4 and the truth is that if I could I would buy the 5s, but I prefer to wait for the 6, but my question is…, do you recommend changing the battery to my 4 or do I hold out until the 6 comes out?

  15.   Van claypool said

    Well, that changing the battery for another iPhone is a difference of 20 euros I do not think so, here in Mexico the batteries for iPhone are cheap, the one for a 3gs cost me 200 pesos which would be about 12 euros of course depending on where you buy it and of course they update the system to make it less compatible or make it more uncomfortable for the user and say "FUCK THIS IS NOT GOING FOR ME, I WILL BUY THE NEW ONE" and so I am happy with my iphone 5 I think I will change mine until the 7 or something like that hahaha

  16.   Alberto Violero Romero said

    Well, I will have my iPhone 4 and my 3GS that the girlfriend has, until they no longer work. for the moment they work correctly. and if one day I have to change the battery I will change it in an unofficial site and thus I will not have to spend so much on a new mobile.

  17.   odalie said

    It is clear that things do not last forever and less technological devices: mobile phones, watches, computers, etc.

    It is true that iOS 7 is slower on iPhone 4 than on 5, but also iPhone 4 has half the RAM and worse processor than 5.

    iOS 7 they have done it thinking about the new models and today an iPhone 4 is doing acceptably well, compared to previous versions of iOS 7. What I don't believe is in those conspiratorial theories of people who think that iOS 7 does not perform well in iPhone 4 / 4S intentionally to force us to change terminals. Technology evolves very fast, and Apple is a company and lives off the sales of its devices.

    I bought the iPhone 5s because I wanted to change and because I know that the investment is good and I will notice a lot of difference. With my iPhone 4 I don't even have Siri, the camera doesn't take pictures well, the applications load slower because they ask for more processor and memory and I think the change is worth it.

    If I had an iPhone 5, I would not even jokingly buy an iPhone 5s, unless I was particularly excited and could sell the 5 at a good price.

    Although there are people who have had the 5, they have bought the 5s and say it is worth the change. This has also encouraged me to buy it, I who have the 4 will notice it much more ...

  18.   odalie said

    It is clear that things do not last forever and less technological devices: mobile phones, watches, computers, etc.

    It is true that iOS 7 is slower on iPhone 4 than on 5, but also iPhone 4 has half the RAM and worse processor than 5.

    iOS 7 they have done it thinking about the new models and today an iPhone 4 is doing acceptably well, compared to previous versions of iOS 7. What I don't believe is in those conspiratorial theories of people who think that iOS 7 does not perform well in iPhone 4 / 4S intentionally to force us to change terminals. Technology evolves very fast, and Apple is a company and lives off the sales of its devices.

    I bought the iPhone 5s because I wanted to change and because I know that the investment is good and I will notice a lot of difference. With my iPhone 4 I don't even have Siri, the camera doesn't take pictures well, the applications load slower because they ask for more processor and memory and I think the change is worth it.

    If I had an iPhone 5, I would not even jokingly buy an iPhone 5s, unless I was particularly excited and could sell the 5 at a good price.

    Although there are people who have had the 5, they have bought the 5s and say it is worth the change. This has also encouraged me to buy it, I who have the 4 will notice it much more ...

  19.   ifan said

    I am happy with my iphones 3g / s 4 / s as a music ipod and my iphone 5 as my video ipod and my 5s as a phone

  20.    Hector Mejia said

    More than happy with the iPhone 5 and I'm not going to change it for a long time.

  21.   omar said

    I think that if you have an iPhone 2g, 3g, 3gs, 4 or 4s if it is worth changing it if you have the iPhone 5 then I think not

  22.   albertoglezc said

    Planned obsolescence should NEVER exist as such. That only shows an attitude of fear of the manufacturers as well as a bad intention on the part of them.
    I think the ideal strategy would be to offer users something innovative, with improvements that justify the replacement of the product (if the buyer considers it so).
    If the terminal I have is going well for me and I do not consider it appropriate to make a change, it is perhaps that, either I do not need to buy a new one, or the new product does NOT provide anything to justify the change.
    In my case, the transition from iPhone 4 to 5 was, for example, apart from the speed of the terminal, the use of SIRI, which, although I was able to test on the iPhone 4 thanks to the Jailbreak, I saw that this terminal certainly did not behave correctly with SIRI and therefore it was really reasonable not to have implemented it due to the poor usability of the terminal with it.
    In the case of the 5S for me, for example, it is not a necessity, so I will not change terminals. The moment I see if the 6 justifies the change due to hardware limitation then I will consider it.

  23.   aarancon said

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  24.   aarancon said

    (b) gg (/ b)